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		<title>By: Katy</title>
		<link>http://www.philosyphia.com/religion/ring-are-you-called-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the past year I&#039;ve changed my view on many things. 
I&#039;m not saying &quot;callings&quot; don&#039;t exist, but I do doubt them more now than
ever.  I thought I was supposed to be a teacher, thought I was being
&quot;called&quot; to do it.  Then, (in my world) God laughed in my face!!  So, 
now, one year later, I work in an elevator.  I do a job that requires a 
high school diploma or the equivalent.  Yes folks, that&#039;s right, I have taken
a college education (at the value of $100K) and done nothing with it.  
I began teaching and then found out life is crazier than I am, scary thought I know.
However, I took a job to have a job cause I have bills and like to live 
indoors and have ended up loving.  I think its more about the experiences
you live through and grow from.  You are supposed to experience different things
at different times and for different reasons.  Therefore, a higher power puts
you in different situations....call it a calling if you will, but its the stage
in life your at at that time....to me at least!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past year I&#8217;ve changed my view on many things.<br />
I&#8217;m not saying &#8220;callings&#8221; don&#8217;t exist, but I do doubt them more now than<br />
ever.  I thought I was supposed to be a teacher, thought I was being<br />
&#8220;called&#8221; to do it.  Then, (in my world) God laughed in my face!!  So,<br />
now, one year later, I work in an elevator.  I do a job that requires a<br />
high school diploma or the equivalent.  Yes folks, that&#8217;s right, I have taken<br />
a college education (at the value of $100K) and done nothing with it.<br />
I began teaching and then found out life is crazier than I am, scary thought I know.<br />
However, I took a job to have a job cause I have bills and like to live<br />
indoors and have ended up loving.  I think its more about the experiences<br />
you live through and grow from.  You are supposed to experience different things<br />
at different times and for different reasons.  Therefore, a higher power puts<br />
you in different situations&#8230;.call it a calling if you will, but its the stage<br />
in life your at at that time&#8230;.to me at least!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.philosyphia.com/religion/ring-are-you-called-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - I do believe that there are people who can &quot;miss&quot; their calling. My dad for example worked in personal for 28 years and he did not love it or hate it, but he did it.  It was not until he was retired that he found his call in the kitchen.  He is a great cook and he worked as a cook for camps, resturants and now owns a hot dog wagon.  He loves it and I would guess that part of him wishes he was a chef for most of his life.  But he now has found his calling but some might say that he &quot;missed out&quot; on it earlier in his life.

That&#039;s all from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; I do believe that there are people who can &#8220;miss&#8221; their calling. My dad for example worked in personal for 28 years and he did not love it or hate it, but he did it.  It was not until he was retired that he found his call in the kitchen.  He is a great cook and he worked as a cook for camps, resturants and now owns a hot dog wagon.  He loves it and I would guess that part of him wishes he was a chef for most of his life.  But he now has found his calling but some might say that he &#8220;missed out&#8221; on it earlier in his life.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.philosyphia.com/religion/ring-are-you-called-to-work/comment-page-1#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of those &quot;called&quot; people you are talking about.  I do feel a calling towards what I am pursuing in life (to be a Lutheran Pastor).  When I was at Luther I tried music education, I tried elementary education, I tried social work and heck I was open to lots of things.  
I was so unhappy and confused and that&#039;s why I left Luther.  I needed to &quot;find myself&quot;  I ended up at a Lutheran camp and I thought and prayed long and hard about what I was going to do in my life.  I continued my education and here I am entering my last year of seminary.  It is not about the money, there is nothing I can do in the parish that will earn the big bucks.  But I know I would be unhappy doing anything else. I keep saying (weather it is to convince myself that this is what I am spose to do or not I don&#039;t know) but I say that I tried running from God but God found a way to bring me back here.
Martin Luther says that it does not matter if you are a precher, teacher or computer programmer you are called to that vocation.  Basically you use the gifts that God has given you and you put them to work.  Hey if you are good at sex then prostitution might be for you (but I am sure there are better things).  If you have a talent for computers and figuring out all the programming aspects why is that not a calling?  Does the word &quot;calling&quot; have to have a religious slant to it?  Why can&#039;t it be used for everyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of those &#8220;called&#8221; people you are talking about.  I do feel a calling towards what I am pursuing in life (to be a Lutheran Pastor).  When I was at Luther I tried music education, I tried elementary education, I tried social work and heck I was open to lots of things.<br />
I was so unhappy and confused and that&#8217;s why I left Luther.  I needed to &#8220;find myself&#8221;  I ended up at a Lutheran camp and I thought and prayed long and hard about what I was going to do in my life.  I continued my education and here I am entering my last year of seminary.  It is not about the money, there is nothing I can do in the parish that will earn the big bucks.  But I know I would be unhappy doing anything else. I keep saying (weather it is to convince myself that this is what I am spose to do or not I don&#8217;t know) but I say that I tried running from God but God found a way to bring me back here.<br />
Martin Luther says that it does not matter if you are a precher, teacher or computer programmer you are called to that vocation.  Basically you use the gifts that God has given you and you put them to work.  Hey if you are good at sex then prostitution might be for you (but I am sure there are better things).  If you have a talent for computers and figuring out all the programming aspects why is that not a calling?  Does the word &#8220;calling&#8221; have to have a religious slant to it?  Why can&#8217;t it be used for everyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Pralle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Pralle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bec:  I wonder, if you can be predisposed to doing a particular job (whether through nature or nurture), why wouldn&#039;t someone necessarily be talented in the area of prostitution?  It&#039;s an interesting thought -- and yet whether or not that person ever found their &quot;true calling&quot; or not might depend on a myriad of factors, ranging from social taboos (&quot;prostitution is a sin!&quot;) to lack of opportunity (marries well, never hits the level where it&#039;s necessary, etc.)

I do like your question about, &quot;if the person is so good at that talent, do they enjoy it, and if not, why not, since they&#039;re so good at it?&quot;   You do tend to see a lot of people who are probably &quot;burnt out&quot; because they choose to do what they excelled at and now they hate it.   Seems rather...unfair, in some ways (despite the fact that I don&#039;t believe in ultimate fairness anyway, but that&#039;s another discussion...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bec:  I wonder, if you can be predisposed to doing a particular job (whether through nature or nurture), why wouldn&#8217;t someone necessarily be talented in the area of prostitution?  It&#8217;s an interesting thought &#8212; and yet whether or not that person ever found their &#8220;true calling&#8221; or not might depend on a myriad of factors, ranging from social taboos (&#8220;prostitution is a sin!&#8221;) to lack of opportunity (marries well, never hits the level where it&#8217;s necessary, etc.)</p>
<p>I do like your question about, &#8220;if the person is so good at that talent, do they enjoy it, and if not, why not, since they&#8217;re so good at it?&#8221;   You do tend to see a lot of people who are probably &#8220;burnt out&#8221; because they choose to do what they excelled at and now they hate it.   Seems rather&#8230;unfair, in some ways (despite the fact that I don&#8217;t believe in ultimate fairness anyway, but that&#8217;s another discussion&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Bec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, thats one quesiton that will have to wait for the afterlife if there is one.

But I can tell you, with these kids right now in this house, my motherly instincts are not doing at all well......lol.

But there are a million quesitons that can come from that, are we given certain talents for a reason e.g. work, and if you can be called talented, do you enjoy doing that talent, and if not, why is that person so good at that particular talent.

I&#039;m sure I was not ment to be a prostitute........lol

No but seriously, my personal opinion is that, some things ither work related, hobby, etc, come so naturally link an instinct to some people, and maybe the others have just not found what that thing is.  Maybe these things line up to our career, or maybe the possibility has never happened for that abilty.   Then the questions of fate arise to.  So I am going to stop because the question are never ending, if any of of this has even mad sence to anyone who reads this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, thats one quesiton that will have to wait for the afterlife if there is one.</p>
<p>But I can tell you, with these kids right now in this house, my motherly instincts are not doing at all well&#8230;&#8230;lol.</p>
<p>But there are a million quesitons that can come from that, are we given certain talents for a reason e.g. work, and if you can be called talented, do you enjoy doing that talent, and if not, why is that person so good at that particular talent.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I was not ment to be a prostitute&#8230;&#8230;..lol</p>
<p>No but seriously, my personal opinion is that, some things ither work related, hobby, etc, come so naturally link an instinct to some people, and maybe the others have just not found what that thing is.  Maybe these things line up to our career, or maybe the possibility has never happened for that abilty.   Then the questions of fate arise to.  So I am going to stop because the question are never ending, if any of of this has even mad sence to anyone who reads this.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Pralle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Pralle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bec:   That&#039;s an interesting take on it...I have never thought of callings as being something hardwired, rather than inspired.   It is entirely possible that the ones that take on those jobs are, in fact, predisposed to them, either through genetics or nurture.   The question then becomes, are we all &quot;called&quot; to something, but most of us simply don&#039;t match up with that thing that we are predisposed to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bec:   That&#8217;s an interesting take on it&#8230;I have never thought of callings as being something hardwired, rather than inspired.   It is entirely possible that the ones that take on those jobs are, in fact, predisposed to them, either through genetics or nurture.   The question then becomes, are we all &#8220;called&#8221; to something, but most of us simply don&#8217;t match up with that thing that we are predisposed to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some people just do what they feel is best for them and they look at their talents and what they care about and decide to just go for it. Sometimes it&#039;s for the experience. Sometimes money and richness doesn&#039;t matter to people. If they can help others or gain experience/knowledge, then that&#039;s what makes them rich. Is it sometimes unrealistic? I guess. But why not? You only live once. Or so they say. I want to preserve the things I care about, namely local history, houses, museums, things like that. I feel there has to be a voice for everything and I&#039;d like to represent that aspect of life. I also have a strong interest in animal health. Right now I&#039;m deciding which path to chose-Veterinary science or history? Heh! Photography is a talent of mine. A gift, I like to think. I define gifts as something you just more or less naturally pick up instead of sitting and studying. 
Am I sure this is what I was &quot;called&quot; to do? Spend my life learning about what has already happened or treating people&#039;s pets and perhaps make a comfortable living? Would I learn more about myself or maybe find some comfort in my studies? I guess. They are interests I&#039;ve had for a long time and it&#039;s something I truly care about. It has never left me. I ignored it and tried to focus on better careers but I hated doing that. I always came back to where I started. If that happens more than once, coming full circle, then yes, I believe that&#039;s your calling.
If any of this makes sense, I&#039;m glad :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some people just do what they feel is best for them and they look at their talents and what they care about and decide to just go for it. Sometimes it&#8217;s for the experience. Sometimes money and richness doesn&#8217;t matter to people. If they can help others or gain experience/knowledge, then that&#8217;s what makes them rich. Is it sometimes unrealistic? I guess. But why not? You only live once. Or so they say. I want to preserve the things I care about, namely local history, houses, museums, things like that. I feel there has to be a voice for everything and I&#8217;d like to represent that aspect of life. I also have a strong interest in animal health. Right now I&#8217;m deciding which path to chose-Veterinary science or history? Heh! Photography is a talent of mine. A gift, I like to think. I define gifts as something you just more or less naturally pick up instead of sitting and studying.<br />
Am I sure this is what I was &#8220;called&#8221; to do? Spend my life learning about what has already happened or treating people&#8217;s pets and perhaps make a comfortable living? Would I learn more about myself or maybe find some comfort in my studies? I guess. They are interests I&#8217;ve had for a long time and it&#8217;s something I truly care about. It has never left me. I ignored it and tried to focus on better careers but I hated doing that. I always came back to where I started. If that happens more than once, coming full circle, then yes, I believe that&#8217;s your calling.<br />
If any of this makes sense, I&#8217;m glad <img src='http://www.philosyphia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK sorry Nathan, going to do the kath &amp; Kim thing on you.

&quot;Nathan, I have one word to say to you.

INSTINCT&quot;

Maybe more of an instinct, than a calling.

As wikipedia say&#039;s.

&#039;Instinct is the inherent disposition of a living organism toward a particular behavior.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK sorry Nathan, going to do the kath &amp; Kim thing on you.</p>
<p>&#8220;Nathan, I have one word to say to you.</p>
<p>INSTINCT&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe more of an instinct, than a calling.</p>
<p>As wikipedia say&#8217;s.</p>
<p>&#8216;Instinct is the inherent disposition of a living organism toward a particular behavior.&#8217;</p>
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