Comments on: Post-Election Open Letters: McCain http://www.philosyphia.com/politics/post-election-open-letters-mccain My Keyboard, My Sword Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:28:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nathan Pralle http://www.philosyphia.com/politics/post-election-open-letters-mccain/comment-page-1#comment-1578 Nathan Pralle Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:39:36 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/?p=885#comment-1578 <b>Niche</b> and <b>Brock's</b> sentiment about McCain's managers running him is probably spot-on, but still -- if you can't control your own managers, what makes you think you can control the country well? I guarantee the 'management' doesn't get any easier. You're still the answer for what happens, even if you didn't effect the change, so to say that McCain wasn't guilty of the Palin Pick is just passing the buck when the buck stops at him. <b>Courtney</b>: Agreed on both points. While I am vehemently anti-abortion myself, I cannot be anything but inflamed at his implication that all women are heartless bitches just aching to get rid of their babies as soon as possible. Sure, some are. Don't get me wrong. But not most, and that's a bad attitude to have if you're trying hard to win over the female voters. Hell, it's a bad attitude in general. Agreed on the classy speech...I was very impressed by it and I think others were, too. It proves he <i>can</i> be classy and suave when he tries, which bodes well should he ever get into something else in his career. <b>Brock:</b> While it never was explicitly said, "I was a good solider, therefore I'm a good president material", it was implied over and over in commercials, stories, and other media. Older voters and military families often took a position of, "Well, he served his country in fighting, therefore he'll be a good servant in office" which does NOT translate. That's my admonition to lay off on that as one of your credentials for the office, as it's just as tugging to the sympathetic yet unthinking masses as picking Palin to lure the religious right. Yes, it's part of his record and yes, I respect it, but at the same time, it doesn't even enter into my factors of whether or not he's good for the office because I cannot see how its even relevant. Niche and Brock’s sentiment about McCain’s managers running him is probably spot-on, but still — if you can’t control your own managers, what makes you think you can control the country well? I guarantee the ‘management’ doesn’t get any easier. You’re still the answer for what happens, even if you didn’t effect the change, so to say that McCain wasn’t guilty of the Palin Pick is just passing the buck when the buck stops at him.

Courtney: Agreed on both points. While I am vehemently anti-abortion myself, I cannot be anything but inflamed at his implication that all women are heartless bitches just aching to get rid of their babies as soon as possible. Sure, some are. Don’t get me wrong. But not most, and that’s a bad attitude to have if you’re trying hard to win over the female voters. Hell, it’s a bad attitude in general.

Agreed on the classy speech…I was very impressed by it and I think others were, too. It proves he can be classy and suave when he tries, which bodes well should he ever get into something else in his career.

Brock: While it never was explicitly said, “I was a good solider, therefore I’m a good president material”, it was implied over and over in commercials, stories, and other media. Older voters and military families often took a position of, “Well, he served his country in fighting, therefore he’ll be a good servant in office” which does NOT translate. That’s my admonition to lay off on that as one of your credentials for the office, as it’s just as tugging to the sympathetic yet unthinking masses as picking Palin to lure the religious right. Yes, it’s part of his record and yes, I respect it, but at the same time, it doesn’t even enter into my factors of whether or not he’s good for the office because I cannot see how its even relevant.

]]> By: Courtney http://www.philosyphia.com/politics/post-election-open-letters-mccain/comment-page-1#comment-1574 Courtney Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:18:12 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/?p=885#comment-1574 Great letter. Palin was a huge mistake, but if he regrets that choice, he certainly hid it well. His concession speech was super classy - it's too bad he couldn't have run his whole campaign with the same grace and dignity. I lost all my respect for him (barring my respect for his military service) when he put women's health in air-quotes. Because, apparently, us women-folk like to make up health issues so that we can have, goodygoody, late-term abortions. And our (air-quote) doctors (end air-quote) go along with us. Mmm-hmm. <abbr><em>Courtneys last blog post..<a href="http://fiveseconddanceparty.com/?p=528" rel="nofollow">Contradictory</a></abbr></em> Great letter.

Palin was a huge mistake, but if he regrets that choice, he certainly hid it well. His concession speech was super classy – it’s too bad he couldn’t have run his whole campaign with the same grace and dignity.

I lost all my respect for him (barring my respect for his military service) when he put women’s health in air-quotes. Because, apparently, us women-folk like to make up health issues so that we can have, goodygoody, late-term abortions. And our (air-quote) doctors (end air-quote) go along with us. Mmm-hmm.

Courtneys last blog post..Contradictory

]]> By: Brock Johnson http://www.philosyphia.com/politics/post-election-open-letters-mccain/comment-page-1#comment-1573 Brock Johnson Sat, 08 Nov 2008 04:32:40 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/?p=885#comment-1573 I agree completely with pointer number one. As for point two; if you think for a moment John McCain picked Palin personally then you're far off base. Unfortunately the RNC and McCain's advisors had far too much say in his campaign (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain). Personally, I don't think there could have been a more transparent pick than Sarah Palin. She was picked because she is a woman and extremely conservative, so as to motivate the far right and pick up disgruntled Hillary supporters. Could go down as the worst VP pick ever. For number three, I agree the negativity only comes out when you're getting desperate, and desperate he was. With number four, I strongly disagree. I never felt like they used his service as a reason why he would be a good president, rather proof of his never ending dedication to his country. Maybe now the Republican party will learn their true base is not with the socially conservative religious right. It's time for an overhaul and a return to the principles you mention above. I agree completely with pointer number one. As for point two; if you think for a moment John McCain picked Palin personally then you’re far off base. Unfortunately the RNC and McCain’s advisors had far too much say in his campaign (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain). Personally, I don’t think there could have been a more transparent pick than Sarah Palin. She was picked because she is a woman and extremely conservative, so as to motivate the far right and pick up disgruntled Hillary supporters. Could go down as the worst VP pick ever. For number three, I agree the negativity only comes out when you’re getting desperate, and desperate he was. With number four, I strongly disagree. I never felt like they used his service as a reason why he would be a good president, rather proof of his never ending dedication to his country. Maybe now the Republican party will learn their true base is not with the socially conservative religious right. It’s time for an overhaul and a return to the principles you mention above.

]]> By: nicheplayer http://www.philosyphia.com/politics/post-election-open-letters-mccain/comment-page-1#comment-1572 nicheplayer Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:06:21 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/?p=885#comment-1572 I should probably be more charitable to Senator McCain, but my feeling is that a politician of his experience should not have let himself be so obviously bullied by his managers. Seriously, does anyone really think he thought it was a good idea to choose Palin? Really? And if he DID, it only goes to show that maybe he was ill-suited for the Prez post after all. <abbr><em>nicheplayers last blog post..<a href="http://nicheplayer.net/avablog/?p=1648" rel="nofollow">Life with brother</a></abbr></em> I should probably be more charitable to Senator McCain, but my feeling is that a politician of his experience should not have let himself be so obviously bullied by his managers. Seriously, does anyone really think he thought it was a good idea to choose Palin? Really? And if he DID, it only goes to show that maybe he was ill-suited for the Prez post after all.

nicheplayers last blog post..Life with brother

]]> By: Post-Election Open Letters: McCain http://www.philosyphia.com/politics/post-election-open-letters-mccain/comment-page-1#comment-1570 Post-Election Open Letters: McCain Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:18:34 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/?p=885#comment-1570 [...] Post-Election Open Letters: McCain ONE: To really reconnect with the public on a Republican platform, you first have to get your party to go back to the days when GOP stood for “Grand Old Party” and not “Grumpy Old Pissants”. Everyone has to be invited and welcomed, … [...] [...] Post-Election Open Letters: McCain ONE: To really reconnect with the public on a Republican platform, you first have to get your party to go back to the days when GOP stood for “Grand Old Party” and not “Grumpy Old Pissants”. Everyone has to be invited and welcomed, … [...]

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