Comments on: Looks Go a Long Way http://www.philosyphia.com/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way My Keyboard, My Sword Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:28:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nathan Pralle http://www.philosyphia.com/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/comment-page-1#comment-511 Nathan Pralle Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:12:36 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/index.php/2007/09/12/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/#comment-511 <b>Joe:</b> It also depends on what you consider to be, "inhuman" treatment. Many people would consider leaving dogs outside on a cold winter's night to be "inhumane", and yet, this is something we've done for years and it isn't cruel at all. It also depends on where you personally draw the line between what we are allowed to do to animals and what we are not, which is wide and varied, depending on who you talk to. You have those that feel only free range is the way to properly treat them, whereas some believe that fencing them in a small pen or stuffing them tightly in cages is fine, too. Each believe that they are treating animals humanely (usually), but each has a different standard for where they draw that line. These videos are allowed, certainly, to present their point of view. I'm just saying that the POV is vastly skewed to one side, and folks would do well to look at other viewpoints before deciding for themselves what is right. These videos present themselves as objective documentaries when in fact they're opinionated videos. That's the part that gets my goat. :) Joe: It also depends on what you consider to be, “inhuman” treatment. Many people would consider leaving dogs outside on a cold winter’s night to be “inhumane”, and yet, this is something we’ve done for years and it isn’t cruel at all. It also depends on where you personally draw the line between what we are allowed to do to animals and what we are not, which is wide and varied, depending on who you talk to. You have those that feel only free range is the way to properly treat them, whereas some believe that fencing them in a small pen or stuffing them tightly in cages is fine, too. Each believe that they are treating animals humanely (usually), but each has a different standard for where they draw that line.

These videos are allowed, certainly, to present their point of view. I’m just saying that the POV is vastly skewed to one side, and folks would do well to look at other viewpoints before deciding for themselves what is right. These videos present themselves as objective documentaries when in fact they’re opinionated videos. That’s the part that gets my goat. :)

]]> By: Joe http://www.philosyphia.com/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/comment-page-1#comment-510 Joe Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:34:59 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/index.php/2007/09/12/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/#comment-510 Nathan, It is not so much that they had to kill it, trust me I don't have a problem with that, I think it is the way that they treat them. Sure it is not a pretty life for these animals but there is a line that does not need to be crossed in order to get the same result. You are right that these videos have a certain point of view, I don't see the problem in that. It is like their own blog post, but in video format. Nathan,
It is not so much that they had to kill it, trust me I don’t have a problem with that, I think it is the way that they treat them. Sure it is not a pretty life for these animals but there is a line that does not need to be crossed in order to get the same result.

You are right that these videos have a certain point of view, I don’t see the problem in that. It is like their own blog post, but in video format.

]]> By: Nathan Pralle http://www.philosyphia.com/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/comment-page-1#comment-507 Nathan Pralle Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:30:51 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/index.php/2007/09/12/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/#comment-507 <b>Barbara:</b> Due to my post? Wow. I didn't think it was THAT influential. :) <b>Joe:</b> The problem with these videos is that they are purposely angled to give the worst possible face on the industry. That being said, am I the only one that watches these and goes, "Yeah, so what?" Slaughter of animals is how it works, folks. Sure, I don't agree with treating animals like crap, but there's real reasons for why things are done the way they are done. If you like your steak, it comes from somewhere. Don't come weeping to me because someone had to KILL something to get it. Suck it up. <b>Mel:</b> <i>Chicken</i> mince? That's something I don't think we get around here, but yeah, that'd be pretty disturbing, too. <b>Nicheplayer:</b> I'm a big believer in the correct role of protein in my diet, and I know that when I eat some, I feel better and more satisfied than I do if I leave it out. I do attempt things like turkey burgers so that I'm ingesting less fat on occasion, and beans are good except for the after affects, which do not impress my wife. :) Barbara: Due to my post? Wow. I didn’t think it was THAT influential. :)

Joe: The problem with these videos is that they are purposely angled to give the worst possible face on the industry. That being said, am I the only one that watches these and goes, “Yeah, so what?” Slaughter of animals is how it works, folks. Sure, I don’t agree with treating animals like crap, but there’s real reasons for why things are done the way they are done. If you like your steak, it comes from somewhere. Don’t come weeping to me because someone had to KILL something to get it. Suck it up.

Mel: Chicken mince? That’s something I don’t think we get around here, but yeah, that’d be pretty disturbing, too.

Nicheplayer: I’m a big believer in the correct role of protein in my diet, and I know that when I eat some, I feel better and more satisfied than I do if I leave it out. I do attempt things like turkey burgers so that I’m ingesting less fat on occasion, and beans are good except for the after affects, which do not impress my wife. :)

]]> By: nicheplayer http://www.philosyphia.com/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/comment-page-1#comment-506 nicheplayer Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:38:33 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/index.php/2007/09/12/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/#comment-506 I love turkey burgers. A pinch of salt, couple grinds on the pepper mill, and a few shakes of the Worcestershire bottle, and we're good to go. I'm trying to eat less red meat these days, but ingesting protein is still pretty high on my list of dietary necessities. I guess I should be eating more beans. I love turkey burgers. A pinch of salt, couple grinds on the pepper mill, and a few shakes of the Worcestershire bottle, and we’re good to go. I’m trying to eat less red meat these days, but ingesting protein is still pretty high on my list of dietary necessities. I guess I should be eating more beans.

]]> By: mel http://www.philosyphia.com/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/comment-page-1#comment-502 mel Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:19:59 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/index.php/2007/09/12/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/#comment-502 chicken mince freaks me out.. i can't touch the stuff!! chicken mince freaks me out.. i can’t touch the stuff!!

]]> By: Joe http://www.philosyphia.com/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/comment-page-1#comment-501 Joe Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:24:41 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/index.php/2007/09/12/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/#comment-501 I agree with the turkey burger, I have thought about vegetarianism -we are actually doing one dinner a week with no meat. It all started with watching the video "I saw earthlings" you might think twice about the meat you eat after you watch this. http://youtube.com/watch?v=GhxKnys7Ryw Trust me you don't want to be eating a juicy burger while watching that. I agree with the turkey burger, I have thought about vegetarianism -we are actually doing one dinner a week with no meat. It all started with watching the video “I saw earthlings” you might think twice about the meat you eat after you watch this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GhxKnys7Ryw

Trust me you don’t want to be eating a juicy burger while watching that.

]]> By: Barbara http://www.philosyphia.com/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/comment-page-1#comment-499 Barbara Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:00:06 +0000 http://www.philosyphia.com/index.php/2007/09/12/emotions/looks-go-a-long-way/#comment-499 Great post, I just converted to vegetarianism! Great post, I just converted to vegetarianism!

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